Why didn't Lichess made a public declaration about the genocide in Gaza?

@WassimBerbar said in #1:
> Why didn't Lichess speak about the genocide in Gaza? More than 7 months have passed since October 2023, so why?!
Why didn't lichess speak about the Royhinga? Why didn't lichess speak about yemen? Why didn't lichess speak about the womans riots in Iran? Why didn't lichess speak about the Syrian civil war? Why didn't Lichess speak about boko haram? Why didn't lichess ....?

It's not a political platform

@salmon_rushdie said in #11:
> Why didn't lichess speak about the Royhinga? Why didn't lichess speak about Ukraine? Why didn't lichess speak about yemen? Why didn't lichess speak about the womans riots in Iran? Why didn't lichess speak about the Syrian civil war? Why didn't Lichess speak about boko haram? Why didn't lichess ....?
You're right. We should also add these in the list.
Although Lichess already spoke about Ukraine, there needs to be declaration for every of these.

@WassimBerbar said in #12:
> You're right. We should also add these in the list.
> Although Lichess already spoke about Ukraine, there needs to be declaration for every of these.
Yes I removed that - but I think there should be none - rather than all - it's not a political platform, people are free to express their views but I think that once you begin to use a platform for political aims then you are expected to make a stand on every single contentious issue and that politicizes your platform and will eventually lead to polarization and community segregation.

What about the Romans?! They did nothing for us!!!

“the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.”

As Israel does not have the aim of destroying the Palestinian people so it is not genocide. Because Hamas’s goal is the destruction of Israel what they are doing is genocide.

Any sane person can easily see that the two sides have different goals and apply the definition.

Personally I think Israel after being the victim of a 75 year campaign of an attempted genocide, Israel would be justified in responding in kind, but as of yet, Israel has chosen not to. I do wonder how long Israeli patience will last, before we do see Israel decide to do what it has been accused of.

@WassimBerbar said in #10:
> Amazing joke, from both of you. The same joke everyone heard, and every sane person refuted and debunked.
> lichess.org/forum/off-topic-discussion/aid-workers-killed-in-gaza?page=9#81
I did not write this message.
Let me tell you a story: Once upon a time there was a serial killer who lived in a small, crime-ridden neighborhood. He would kidnap girls there and to the sound of the crowd's laughter he would rape them and brutally kill them. Some of the crowd also threw stones at the poor girls.
That's how he murdered hundreds.
One day he murdered the entire family of a certain policeman. The policeman chased him and reached the neighborhood of the crime. He screamed through the megaphone to all the residents to stay away. Some listened to him and some did not, but even among the residents who listened to him, there were some residents who remained in the battle area because of the killer's threats.
The policeman put the killer in sight and shot, but immediately after doing so, the criminal grabbed one of the residents of the neighborhood and gathered him so that he was the one who took the bullet.

At the end of the chase, in addition to the murderer, 3 residents of the neighborhood were killed (most of whom, as mentioned, are passive or active participants in the murderer's crimes.) One was killed because the criminal threw him into the fire. One was killed because he was in the fire zone (because the criminal forced him) and was hit by shrapnel, and one was killed because he was in the fire zone because the officer did not aim properly.

Is the policeman considered a criminal?

[The killing ratio in Gaza is If I'm not mistaken about 2 civilians for every Hamas fighter. (The statistics of civilian deaths come mainly from the Palestinian Ministry of Health, which is controlled by Hamas, so it's not really reliable either..) When the battle is in a built-up area (which is an unprecedented achievement! In a battle in a built-up area, the number of dead is usually much more than 2 for every 1!) that Israel warns him in advance and informs everyone to flee and Hamas prevents them from fleeing (so the blood is on Hamas' hands.) A high percentage of Palestinian citizens were also passive or active partners in terrorism.
Israel is fighting Hamas and civilians are injured along the way, (most of them are Hamas's fault) this is really not genocide!]

Maybe if you want some random statements about politics, visiting X or Facebook will be a better place.

I don't think every organization is required to make statements about every issue in the world. In fact, it seems a stupid idea to bring politics into everything.

And it wouldn't help anybody. And the statement surely wouldn't please everybody. And not convince anybody with a different point of view.

Does @WassimBerbar need reminding the Hamas have openly admitted to hiding in hospitals which is AN INTERNATIONAL WAR CRIME, before making assertions that this situation is remotely clear cut? Unlike Ukraine, where Russia is obviously an oppressor. So any site in their right mind will not comment on anything where there is an inch of reasonable disagreement.

@ed01106 said in #9:
> It would be extremely hypocritical to criticize Israel for defending itself

Since you claim Israel actions are "defending itself" answer me this: How many children is acceptable to murder while defending oneself?

@ed01106 said in #15:
> As Israel does not have the aim of destroying the Palestinian people so it is not genocide

Why have they murdered 10.000+ kids if not because they have the aim of destroying the Palestinian people? And why are they settling in the West Bank?

> I think Israel after being the victim of a 75 year campaign of an attempted genocide, Israel would be justified in responding in kind, but as of yet, Israel has chosen not to

Israel has already harmed the Palestinians infinitely much more than Hamas could ever dream to hurt Israel. And obviously you're forgetting that Hamas isn't the same thing as Palestine. What you think is absurd, wrong, and misinformed.